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There has been a recent fleury of discussion about XML vs JSON. What a great topic for the holidays.

Although I have been talking about this topic for some time, some XML bloggers have recently started to discuss the topic (Tim Bray, Don Box, David Megginson, Dare Obsanjo and all the comments). For the most part the discussion is pretty tame and nothing really new.

Tim brings up the good points about extensibility and encoding. He also importantly acknowledges the fact that JSON is applicable in certain cases. To his points I would add the fact that one is able to use XPath with XML making it very powerful for quickly finding data. XPath is one XML technology that many ignore, particularly in the JavaScript sandbox.

The other important points are really in direct response to Dare Obsanjo’s posts from last week: Browser Security Model and Browser Programming Model. First of all, Dare suggests that one reason for JSON being so popular is due to cross-domain JSON (also called JSONP or JSON with Padding). Ignoring the data format, this pattern is applicable to any kind of data, including XML (XML with Padding is equally valid). There is no reason that Yahoo! could not provide a cross-domain XML API along side a cross-domain JSON API. In fact, I urge people to email everyone they know over at Yahoo! to do so for all their properties such as del.icio.us.

There are also a few points I have in response to the second post about the difference between the programming models of JSON and XML. The main thing that I noticed is that the example presents is not a realistic use case. What is most commonly done with data in an Ajax application is that the data is rendered to HTML. The fastest way to render data to HTML is using XML and XSLT. The other thing that he does not look at is cases where the data needs to be sorted or filtered, in which case XML and either XSLT or XPath provide a very nice solution. Of less importance, Dare also states that one should use a JSON parser in case of security concerns, however, the JavaScript based JSON parsers that I have used have had very extremely poor performance - even worse than plain eval().

The other interesting thing was a comment made by Kevin Hackman from TIBCO in the Ajaxian post. Kevin mentioned the fact that TIBCO uses XML to maintain the JavaScript state - i.e. each JavaScript object has a related XML document where the the object properties are stored and accessed using standard JavaScript accessor methods - which helps in terms of application memory usage. This is something that the soon to be released Nitobi Complete UI Framework also does, although for slightly different reasons like the fact that objects can then be easily serialized for use with server frameworks like JSF or ASP.NET.

At any rate, I am happy to see that some others are joining in on the discussion and if nothing else I hope that people start to talk more about using XSLT and XPath in the browser.